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 Creative Ideas

Creative Ideas: The Community of Light

 


 



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The Community of Light: in a nutshell:
We will form a community in a semi-rural area, grow a large portion of our own food, create profitable cottage industries and be self-employed. We will respect the land we live on and enjoy the benefits of right livelihood. We will contribute to our society and the world. Our over all purpose is to benefit our immediate community as well as our society in general. Ideally, if we were near enough to a population center of 50 thousand, we could barter and or provide goods and services. Currently we have many interested persons, some of whom have assets, so although we're not legally organized, we are more than an idea. We are looking for those who have land and are willing to let us use it. We ask for an investor who would be willing to fund our project. I currently estimate that 5 million US dollars would be meet with allowing the successful planting of a new cultural element designed to grow and replicate.
Where to begin?

First, you should look over this page, for example you could look at we've already decided, see our Agreements.

You could then look at the News Section of this page, which is updated as needed for some additional information. better still is to join the YahooGroup and write a brief information If you set its email preferences so that you get "special notices", you'll receive announcements and here is our YahooGroup

If you would like to learn something about the kind of individuals we're interested you can see some profiles at Member Profiles. This is an old list created before we used Yahoo. The value of this listing now lies in the fact that it provides some idea of what we're looking for in terms of members.

You should also look for communities around your area. To do that there is a great resource the The F.I.C. Once at their site you can find communities all over the world and, of course, find ones near to you. You can also see our listing on the F.I.C. site: Community of Light,

If you want to know a bit of our history, see the newsletters Archive.

Last, we have begun exchanging email to find common ground and occasionally we've had chat sessions Our focus is to encourage discussion and contact between those involved. Also, know that building a group over the internet is challenging, so you should also talk with friends and family members. There may be persons in your life who are also interested and would join us along with you.

Current Agreements
1) Social and Interpersonal Objectives
  • Community governance by a 90% or better consensus
  • Openness and availability to special needs members
  • Racial, cultural and spiritual diversity through honesty, trust, education and cooperation

    2) Sustainability Objectives

  • Energy: decreased dependence on fossil fuels and unsustainable energy practices
  • Using more people power and decreasing dependence on machine power
  • Using more energy efficient and alternate energy fueled machines
  • Growth and development of a variety of sustainable fuel sources

    3) Food and Water

  • Reduction of our need on outside commercial agricultural systems for food and water
  • Growth of most or all of our food using a variety of sustainable gardening and agricultural practices and systems
  • Each participant or family would have a large "personal" garden
  • Utilization of rain catchments, springs, wells and other non-municipal water sources for potable and non-potable water
  • Recycling of food and animal waste back into food systems

    4) Shelter

  • Reduction of our need on commercial energy intensive building systems, practices and materials for shelter
  • Use of recycled and "Old World" traditional and untraditional building practices, materials and to create energy efficient buildings and shelters.

    5) Economics

  • Creation of spaces where 'right livelihood' will be encouraged and pursued
  • Cultivation of plant and animal life that will enable a sustainable income from the land
  • Creation of enough public awareness that will enable groups and individuals to utilize our property for public and personal uses

    6) Activism Objectives

  • Engagement with our neighbors in a mutually beneficial barter system
  • Looking for opportunities to present and teach alternatives to the modern consumptive lifestyle

    7) Ecology Objectives

  • Raising awareness of the impact on nature with our processes and consumption patterns
  • Seeking out systems and practices that will lessen the impact on our environmental infrastructure, both in and outside the community utilizing the guidelines of: --no resources in the defined area consumed faster than their natural replenishment --the enclosed system continuing indefinitely, without degradation of its ecosystem or internal resource base, without degradation to the standard of living of the people in it, and without contributing to the non-sustainability of ecosystems outside the collective
  • Choosing recycled materials when possible and practical and encouraging our neighbors in doing the same
  • Choosing energy efficient and sustainable systems when possible and practical

    8) These are some other considerations we've come to value:

    1) The Community of Light is an intentional community dedicated to following the principles of environmental responsibility, sustainability, and a holistic approach to health and living.

    2) The Community of Light seeks energy independence, food independence and community-based forms of income generation.

    3) The Community of Light is open to persons from all walks of life. We do not discriminate on the basis of ethnicity, age, or socioeconomic background. The Community of Light encourages personal spiritual growth, however, we do not subscribe to a particular spiritual or religious tradition.

    4) We embrace the principles of multiculturalism, activism for positive change, cooperation, and the interdependence of its members based on mutual trust and honesty. We value improving interpersonal communication and deepening our connections to each other as well as with the world around us.

    5) Currently we have a committee that meets on line to discuss issues. We use a simple majority rule to make decisions in this setting. However, we intend to have a consensus model of leadership for the community. Consensus, for the time being, will consist of a super majority of 90%. We will create provisions, a community meeting to hear dissenting opinions and resolve differences.

    Those applicants with special needs or physical impairments shall be considered individually based on the ability of the Community to meet their needs. Members shall be afforded health care based on a holistic approach incorporating many healing traditions and the resources available to the community.

    They'd have a responsibility to be honest and open with us, as we would have to be with them

    I am assuming that we would be learning as we went, find experts who we'd work with, or even have a conventional health plan if financing allowed it.

    6) There will be a place or area set aside for celebrations and services which will be maintained both by and for the community. Everyone will have an opportunity to make use of the space.

    Practical matters:

    At some point we'll have to determine the capital we as a group have. I'd estimate that by the time we have substantial capitalization, say over one million dollars, just to be optimistic, we will have organized our selves legally, as an entity, and have begun meetings in person as well as sent out explorers for sites.

    We might like a property as large as 500 acres, with good water, wells, or springs. It is possible to work with dry or even desert land as long as the property had some seasonal flooding, indicated by dry washes. In these locations however the work would be more difficult, but, as might be imagined, the price per acre would be less. We prefer land below the snow line.

    Other items:

  • If you would like to know more about community life see The Fellowship for Intentional Community web site. This organization publishes information that gives a good overview of what community living is like. You may write to them at: F.I.C. .
  • The following link The Northwest Intentional Communities Association has a great deal of good information if you are considering forming a community or want to know more about them.

News Section

Community of Light's News Log

Affirmation: The land we seek is first found in the heart, then in the mind, then in the world !

11.16.12
By Daniel Brady and Wendy Wolters

The Word From Here ... New Contacts ... Letters ... Communities Forming ... For Your Information
Interest Survey: Preferences ... Special Commentaries


The Open Letter:

11 - 16 - 12 Hello,

This page has been updated and now contacts new members, a notice about a new community forming and more.

I replied to her but want to share some of that response here: The only requirement for joining, right now, is to join the YahooGroup. I believe we need to have a small sub group willing to form a committee who will be willing to work together to help this idea become a reality. Please contact me at creative1@creativeideasforyou.com, and put COL Group in the subject line.

Thanks for reading this and for hanging in there. Dan: creative1@creativeideasforyou.com

Re: Chat Conferences:

When we do do chat - conferences, the default name will be: "dbrady2000's conference" It is easy to find me in the Yahoo system if you add me as a friend.


New Contacts

11 - 16 - 12:

Here are their emails and comments:

Folks, here are some new listings. Please welcome them as I am here by posting their initial comments. Ideas about how we can do online chatting have been put forth but we have not done that as of yet. I still show up, often enough, on Yahoo Instant Messenger on Sunday evenings. You can always email me and let me know if you'd like to chat at that time or another. Oh, yes, after the listing of names there is a bit of philosophy that a friend sent me. Enjoy, Dan

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rvinjohn66 .......... rvinjohn66@yahoo.com

Comment:

Hi, I'm just like everyone else your group sound interesting .......... John

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Hello,

the excogtitator .......... theexcogitator@yahoo.com

Comment

Long term interest in all aspects of creating a sustainable society

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gregmidgehall .......... greg@sysseven.com

I am a nature lover, solar energy developer and have always wanted to live in a sustainable community where residents/members all work and share together to live in joyful abundance. NOW feels right

 

Letters

This section will be for postings that come from both members and from other sources, which may be of interest. Usually I post new contacts and letters to the Yahoo Group. What I post here are things those looking in at the C.O.L. for the first time may find useful.


Communities Forming and Land Opportunities

This will be for information from or about other communities that comes our way.

 

10/14/12:

The following is the philosophy of Charles Schulz, the creator of the 'Peanuts' comic strip.

You don't have to actually answer the questions. Just ponder on them. Just read the e-mail straight through and you'll get the point.

1. Name the five wealthiest people in the world.

2. Name the last five Heisman trophy winners.

3. Name the last five winners of the Miss America pageant.

4. Name ten people who have won the Nobel or Pulitzer Prize.

5. Name the last half dozen Academy Award winners for best actor and actress.

6. Name the last decade's worth of World Series winners.

The point is, none of us remember the headliners of yesterday. These are second-rate achievers.

They are the best in their fields. But the applause dies. Awards tarnish. Achievements are forgotten. Accolades and certificates are buried with heir owners.

 

1. List a few teachers who aided your journey through school.

2. Name three friends who have helped you through a difficult time.

3. Name five people who have taught you something worthwhile.

4. Think of a few people who have made you feel appreciated and special!!

5. Think of five people you enjoy spending time with.

Easier?

The lesson:

The people who make a difference in your life are not the ones with the most credentials... the most money...or the most awards. They simply are the ones who care the most.

 


For Your Information

09/09/09:

Fellowship of Intentional Communities:

The Fellowship of Intentional Communities is a great resource for anyone wanting information about communities that are established or forming. You can find which ones are near to you and do a good deal of research with the information they provide, who knows there may be a place within a relatively short drive.

Their Communities Magazine comes out regularly. The directory that they have is a great primer in the variety of the community universe. You can write them:. Communities Magazine, 138 Twin Oaks Road, Louisa VA 23093 USA or call them at: Tel/Fax: 540-894-5126. Their website is at Intentional Communities

This list of places seeking members, communities forming and the like. It's at the F.I.C.'s website: http://directory.ic.org/iclist/

Our listing on the F.I.C.

We encourage you to review the Community of Light's listing using this link. Listings at directory.ic.org are also used for the FIC's print version of the Communities Directory.

Northwest Intentional Communities:

The resources on the Northwest Intentional Communities site might be valuable. There are lists of legal documents, process advice etc. They're at: http://www.ic.org/nica/resource.htm

California Farm Link:

Here is an organization, California Farm Link, which attempts to match aspiring farmers with landowners. I've filled out and sent in the questionnaire They operate mostly in northern California, and I've seen some listings of interest. If we are able to get a match for a farm, we could likely negotiate a sharecrop rental until we got our businesses going, then buy the land on doable payment terms.

Giving to Good Causes?

A very easy way to give food to the hungry is to set the Hunger Site as your browser's home page. Check out the Hunger Site to see what it is about and how it works.


Special Commentary or Writings

08 - 25 - 12:

This will be place for commentary of various kinds. 

Ghandi's 7 Dangers To Human Virtue

 

Wealth without work

Pleasure without Conscience

Knowledge without Character

Business without Ethics

Science without Humanity

Religion without Sacrifice

Politics without principle


Our Preferences

If you are a member of our Yahoo group you can access the current polling data, or vote. These are the current statistics as of June 2010; they had been stable for some long time and so I am posting them here.

Would you consider a location outside the United States?

Choices

Votes

%

Outside the U.S. preferred

2

8%

depending on country chosen

5

20%

Neutral - no preference

2

8%

would but not first choice

11

45%

NOT consider outside U.S.

4

16%

Should we have a membership fee of some kind?

Choices

Votes

%

Income of entering members

6

30%

Money making capacity of the community

14

70%

If we had an entry fee what should it be based upon?

Choices

Votes

%

Number of entering members

0

0%

Income of entering members

3

12%

Money making capacity of the community

2

14%

Other

4

23%

A share buying system

8

47%

Areas or regions we'd like to consider: (See the site for details)

Choices

Votes

%

AZ, NM, W. Texas

0

0

Cent. US: NB KS OK DA

0

0

G. Lakes, AK, MO, IL, IN,WI, KY, TN

1

5%

E. KY, E. TN, WVA, W.VA, W.,PA,

2

11%

G. Coast, FL, LA, MS, AL

1

5

E. PA, NY, NH, VT, CT, RH ME, MD

0

0

N. Idaho

1

5

NW/W OR, W. WA,

9

52%

CA, NV, UT, E. OR, E, WA, MT, CO, Wy

3

217%

What kind of climate would you want to live in?

Choices

Votes

%

Tropical

2

8%

Subtropical

6

24%

Forest

7

28%

Woodland/meadow

10

40%

Tundra

0

0%

What land locations would you like?

Choices

Votes

%

Island

15

18%

Peninsula

12

15%

Land bound w/coast

16

20%

land bound no coast

12

15%

High altitude

13

16%

Low altitude

12

15%

What sorts of things would you want to use the land for?

Choices

Votes

%

Farming

22

13%

Raising livestock

16

10%

Raising feed crops

12

7%

Hunting

7

4%

Gathering

17

10%

Fishing

15

9%

Utilitarian crops

12

7%

Fruit bearing trees

25

15%

Lumber/milling

6

3%

Water/solar for alt. power

26

16%

Would you consider a buy/sell/relationship with the outside world?

Choices

Votes

%

Yes

24

100%

No

0

0%

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Member Profiles

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When I began I used to ask persons who wished to join for an introduction. I provide a prompt of ten question and if they respond I place the information on this profiles page. This list was created before we used Yahoo. The value of this listing now lies in the fact that it provides some idea of what we're looking for in terms of members. Although I still invite people to take the prompts as they like.

I keep the profile here until such time as they ask to have it removed or I loose contact with them.

If you wish to change what I have here just let me know.

Wendy and I answered the questions that we usually send persons who inquire about the Community of Light. If you'd like to see what we wrote, check out number 24.

......................Thank you, Dan and Wendy

 


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Stephanie 1

GIRLEST@aol.com

 


Well, where do I begin? I suppose I should keep it simple by saying that yes, I/we are interested in discussing the possibility of being part of a community. My husband and I have been talking about it off and on for years. Currently, we live/work as dorm parents at a private high school and though we do love the community here compared to our previous life of paying lots of rent to live in the city and know few of neighbors, it is not enough, it is not exactly what we want. This is my very first "real" step towards this possibility and look forward to hearing from you.

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Mofwoofoo Woofuaza

Bagelhole1@aol.com

 


Hi, I am inspired to write after reading the introductions. I feel the same as most all of you.

1) Describe your idea of a desirable community.

I would like to live in a community that is unusually beautiful and in a comfortable weather area (maybe outside of the USA) with people who are open-minded and openhearted, who revere integrity, authenticity, creativity, nature, freedom, kindness, and humor. Who love to have fun with whatever they are doing. Where we have everything we need and want, self-sustainability, and our own good company. Lots of creativity, music, singing, and dancing. A community of love

2) What ideals do you feel are important for a community to hold?

The ideals might be, tolerance of differences in others, but not tolerance of cruelty or violence, open-mindedness, fairness, supportiveness

3) Why do you want to join a community?

I would like to join a community to enjoy all that communities can give, to heal having had to live in a society with no, or virtually no real community, community of the heart.

4) Have you visited a community or been part of one?

I once visited Camp Interlocken in Michigan, a summer camp for music, when I was a boy. I only visited one day, and it seemed like a dream. Also, I recently visited Arcosanti in Arizona, decisions there are made by the

founder, an 81 year old Italian architect. It was interesting, but I wouldn't want to place myself under someone else.

5) What skills could you contribute?

I consider myself rather unskilled, though I have a few. I've had a tendency to be an innovator. I had the first antique clothing store, perhaps in the world, in 1969-1972, and ushered in used blue jeans and missed an opportunity to become a young millionaire. But, I never was really materialistic.

I've been a painter, and used to design thousands of clay platters, which sold at 2 museum stores in SF, and taught designs on clay platters at Precita Eyes Mural Arts Center for a couple of years. I created my own career as a creative movement teacher, and taught children in the private schools of SF from 2 and a half years old thru the 4th grade. I had a knack for that.

I have my own not for profit project, www.bagelhole.org which collects and shares low-tech, alternative, sustainable information to help individuals and communities become more self-reliant, self-sustainable, and autonomous. I think we have stumbled on the cutting edge way to grow food called vertical aquaponics. I could construct one of those, and ease the burden of obtaining food. I'm really not a technical person. I'm trying to get through a technological block, that has kept me an idiot, in a technical world.

I also know that I'm a great vehicle driver, but that wouldn't be too important. I love to dance, and I'd like to improvise sing with others and jam with musicians. I know a lot about Zen (non-institutional), I like to believe.

6) Do you have a family coming with you?

I wish my daughter (22) would get interested.

7 What does your primary diet consist of?

I eat fresh eggs from my chickens, mushrooms that I grow, and I hope to be eating all my homegrown vegetables soon. I also eat fish and dairy products. I prefer organic food.

8) Do you have any health concerns or issues?

I've been extremely fortunate, in that I never get any sicknesses so far (for a few years now), I need to stretch a lot more.

9) What kind of management system would you like?

I like consensus by the group. I participated for 8 years as an integral part of San Francisco Food Not Bombs and helped facilitate many a meeting using consensus, it works pretty well.

10) If we were to be located near enough to a community of 5 to 50 thousand, what kind of work would you want to be able to look for?

There's a lot of things I could help with. I love to learn building and cooking. I'm good with kids. I could be involved with some artistic endeavors. I can do the hard work that needs to be done. I'm mostly

interested in continuing my not for profit project, walking the talk, the community being the model. One thing that is missing in my opinion, in a lot of people's statements is a commitment towards changing the world. I think its foolish to imagine that there would be satisfaction in living in pristine nature having fun and ignoring the fact that the rest of the world is dominated by the most perverse examples of humanity and wreaking havoc on all life and all of the environment. That would simply be a fool's paradise, which I'm sure, is often the case.

To me denial, is very dangerous, and hollows out one's existence, just as assuredly, it corrupts the soul. Believe me, I could be called a pagan, anarchistic, and the far extreme from the Puritan, but I sincerely believe that privilege, and that's what we all are to one degree or another, demands doing everything within our power to right the wrongs that we see everywhere. Of course, by being a good model, setting a good example is certainly in that direction. A community that knows how to be a great community can inspire others. I would hope that that would be a goal we would all share. Illuminating everything we do, every step we take with the natural love and compassion with which the Universe provides us and gives us the freedom to express.

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Arthur C. Noll

arthurnoll@onemain.com

 


1) Describe your idea of a desirable community.

A community of people who lived by the principles of energy efficiency for the whole community, and the sustainability of that energy efficiency. The community would consider actions that return needed things of food, shelter, clothing, and so forth for the least energy expenditure if those actions are sustainable. Resources would then be freely given and taken as needed within those limits. For example, the trees would be counted, and if it is decided that we want to cut a tree of an estimated 50 years old, we should have more trees to replace the one we cut.

The number of people in the group would be closely related to the carrying capacity of the land. For me location, not terribly important but I feel that access to wild lands is important.

2) What ideals do you feel are important for a community to hold?

I think this is answered above.

3) Why do you want to join a community?

I wish to live, and I am an interdependent creature. I am uncomfortable with the unsustainable measure of the dominate culture at the present time, unsustainability means death eventually.

4) Have you visited a community or been part of one?

Yes, I have found in my previous searches that communities often fall into two categories. One is a religious category. I have no mystical beliefs and have not been interested in these. I was raised as a Christian Scientist, have a genetic disease, celiac disease, the combination hurt me greatly and has given me an abiding distrust of anything mystical. The disease is not difficult to control but it does put some restrictions on my diet. The other category of community were the secular, but these require more money than I had. I have not looked very actively for several years because of not finding anything, but remain interested in the concept.

5) What skills could you contribute?

I have a degree in mechanical engineering technology. I worked briefly in industry, was dismayed at the unsustainability of it all. I worked for a wind turbine company until it folded, I learned a lot about wind power. I designed and helped build a passive solar house, with wood heat backup, wood heated hot water, composting toilet, gas refrigerator, PV panel running a water pump and learned a little about gardening. I lived on a family farm in Maine, herded goats, trained donkeys, helped with farm work, dairy cows, thought about problems of society and nature, and wrote a book. Spent ten years on farm. I presently do apartment maintenance. This gives an idea of my experience, I hope. More specific skills, I can do carpentry, metalwork, both machine work and welding, some forge and anvil experience, not a beginner though I would not call myself a master at any of them, a decent mechanic, can train animals, herd goats, can ride horse or donkey, milk goats and cows by hand, can butcher either, can make hay. I can do some braiding and leather work, not a master but have made usable tack. A few attempts at making leather, much to learn about that. Have woven baskets from gathered material. Have learned some primitive skills, fire making, cordage, shelter, hunting and fishing. Can hew beams, have built a shed and a small cabin from hand hewn timbers. I've done design work, some designs are: a folding portable shaving horse, foot powered grinding wheel, adjustable stirrups on a saddle without metal buckles, have been working on a wood stove that can be fed long pieces (less cutting) from outside, a folding crossbow with little or no metal in it. I can strum a few chords on a guitar.

6) Do you have a family coming with you?

I am not sure at this time if my present partner and her 7 year old boy would come with me. A difficult problem, but I told her from the beginning that my priority was to work on getting into a sustainable community.

7 and 8) What does your primary diet consist of?

This is tied up with my health problems. I cannot eat wheat, barley, rye or oats. I'm sensitive about certain kinds of beans. I eat most kinds of meat, rice, many vegetables and fruits, yogurt and cheese. I'm lactose intolerant. I understand very well that this is a difficult problem, especially at the present time. However, these grains are not well grown in many areas, and if a group was really trying to live on what an area produced in the most energy efficient manner, this would not be a problem in those areas. Other than that, I am 46, and the body has been abused, it doesn't work as smoothly as it used to, but I still get things done.

9) What kind of management system would you like?

I think this is answered in question one.

10) If we were to be located near enough to a community of 5 to 50 thousand, what kind of work would you want to be able to look for?

I would prefer to work in the intentional community, dealing with animals, making things people need. However, if it was needed for me to work outside, I would probably do house maintenance, substitute teaching, (I have done this before), or farm work. I have not worked so long in a professional capacity that I have not thought much about it in years, and I could probably not get hired in it even if it was available, so that is not an issue. But I can live on very little.

My book is on-line at: http://www.synearth.net/harmony.html

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B.Newman

Bnnewman@aol.com

 


What's the scoop as of late on the communal-type environment prospects? Just curious...no money to put into it, but an interested party...so long as wherever it is has no snow. I'm a Florida / south Texas girl. Thanks, bnn.

I had mentioned to this person that spirituality would play a part in the commune that my wife and I envision. So she asked me about that and this is the answer that I gave. It may be food for thought.

Spiritual for us means that we pray, believe, have friends who do the same. We are not Christian in the mainstream sense of that word. We are, at best, eclectic. We have gone to Universal Worship services, Sufi gatherings, and some others. As to the community, my wife and I, as well as a few others, have thought that the physical layout would include a community hall or building that all would have access to and would have various functions, however, each member would have their own dwelling, however humble. Financial requirements, well, I am hoping to gather capital of some 2 million dollars. By which I mean that if we have a bunch of interested people then we would only begin meeting and planning once we had a collective capital of 2M. I know that different people will have different incomes and wealth. So I have imagined the buying of "shares" and holding the property collectively. I would like it if we could work it out so that individuals would be able to have some equity value that they'd be able to regain if they decided to sell off their share, but in a commune those who stayed in would have to have some say about who replaced the departing person. All these issues are complex and have various kinds of solutions, which we'd have to work out.

Since the idea is to make a better life, I feel a primary obligation would be to add value to the common enterprise or good so that we all had more free time, more personal development, and less problems than we have now. That all said, nothing has been specifically worked out yet I still get persons who are interested and write or exchange email, but we have not met, organized, or determined where we will settle.

I hope that that is an adequate answer to your inquiry. Dan

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B.J.

BrndJffrs@aol.com

 


Hello, I am also interested in a commune based around self sufficient food production. I could not gather your location from your website but I think you're willing to move. You could purchase 500 acres for about 125,000 US in Appalachia. The area is very lush but the topography could not support agribusiness. Sounds perfect to me. Respond if you are interested

 


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Aquariuswaterbearer

LLLinTX@aol.com

 


1) Describe your idea of a desirable community.

My idea of a desirable community is one of individual privacy but shared resources. I like the idea of individual ownership of a private dwelling but with shared community resources.

My vision is a community with diverse dwelling lifestyles suitable for varying tastes, budgets, and ages. Everything from dorms to private rooms to private residences. My personal preference would be for me to have a private residence, depending on cost. However, I could manage a shared residence as long as I had a private room. Sometimes I just really don't want to vote on which television channel I watch or which album I listen to.

Shared resources would include a very large community center with a kitchen, dining room, library, computer room, game room, laundromat, etc. I think it would be great to have options such as cooking once a week for several persons versus cooking for two every single day. Gardens would be many and varied. While I can't physically dig the dirt anymore, I can still plant some and I can water, etc. I especially love herb gardens in addition to vegetable and flower beds. I have researched various methods. I think it would be great to have a running creek, pond, or lake to use the naturalized "scatter" method for planting tons of flowering bulbs, etc. After a hard day's work I envision being able to walk on grounds like these and get "re-centered" and serene again.

I moved to Corpus Christi, TX last July to be nearer to my brother but am probably moving to Houston this summer in order to earn a livable wage. The low pay scale here is unbelievable. I am flexible regarding location, however, I know from personal past experience that I am a danger to myself and others trying to drive upon snow/ice.

2) What ideals do you feel are important for a community to hold?

Believing in the intrinsic worth and dignity of all human beings. I would like to participate in helping to make this earth a better place. A kinder and gentler environment. A place where skills and effort can be exchanged for a better lifestyle.

I had some good friends back home who had an old, huge house they turned into a "communal" house. It was great for them. They even had a woman whose lack of marketable skills had put her and her child in desperate economic straits. However, she lived with them and became the child care giver and housekeeper. It was a win-win situation. Instead of feeling like a burden upon society, she became a blessing and big help to the others. I just think society is missing so many opportunities for sharing resources and making everyone feel valuable. However, I crawl out of bed and go to work even when I don't want to and I don't believe in "free rides" for people. I have read about work exchanges and such on some other intentional community sites so I know these things can be worked out.

3) Why do you want to join a community?

As a single parent (mother) with a child, I am tired of saying "no" to so many things requiring extra money. I have managed to support us - sometimes better than others. I am older and more tired. And I still haven't found the extra money for braces yet. My primary goal would be to live better for less via shared resources, i.e., I don't want to use a push rotary lawnmower. I like the self-propelled ones that I can actually use without killing myself. They are pricey. I bought one. But I only used it once a week. Makes much more sense to pool moneys for things like that.

I also don't have much family. It would be nice to have the same sense of community where we live that we do in our church. We are Unitarian Universalists by faith and, therefore, tolerant of all others.

4) Have you visited a community or been part of one?

No, but some fellow church members have. I have read a directory of intentional communities one of them had. Not the "drop out, drug in" types of the old days, but vital, caring communities sharing a particular vision and common goals. My vision and goal is NOT to personally give up electricity, heat, television, or computers. I like modern conveniences. However, I do believe in using any cheap/free means of generating the power such as solar panels, windmills, etc.

5) What skills could you contribute?

I can't do the physical labor things as I used to in the past. I am actively participating in the natural aging process (I just turned 50 this month) and the arthritis arrived several years ago. However, I am still an office whiz and a very good cook. I have been in the administrative support/office management field for decades.

6) Do you have a family coming with you?

I have a 15-year-old daughter who would accompany me. A decent high school in the area would be important to us.

7) What does your primary diet consist of?

We are meat eaters who don't have to have meat with every meal. I would consider anything except vegan. I tried to cook vegan once for a church retreat and it was so restrictive.

8) Do you have any health concerns or issues?

As others have mentioned, I feel it would be important to be around medical facilities. I am on a couple of maintenance medications - arthritis and hypertension. I have also been sternly chastised by my doctor for not pursuing a healthier lifestyle yet. Mainly, diet and exercise. I do smoke cigarettes but am perfectly accustomed to not being able to smoke in most places nowadays. However, I would expect to be able to do this in my own home and outside.

9) What kind of management system would you like?

Consensus.

10) If we were to be located near enough to a community of 5 to 50 thousand, what kind of work would you want to be able to look for?

Administrative support/clerical.

I would like to mention that the Unitarian Universalist Church in Austin, TX was just given a grant by the Quakers that included several acres of land and some buildings. They plan to turn it into a retreat center. I wonder if you could look into things like that to generate revenue and acquire land?

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Dan Brady & Wendy Wolters

Email DB@ C.I.

 


1) Describe your idea of a desirable community.

For us an intentional community is a group of persons who choose to live in association, for a common purpose, with shared values, cooperatively to some extent, with harmony in sharing enjoyments. It would be like a small village, or neighborhood of friends.

2) What ideals do you feel are important for a community to hold?

We are drawn to both human and spiritual paths which honor diversity. Honesty, compassion, and fair-mindedness are qualities that we feel are very important.

3) Why do you want to join a community?

We would like to co -create a community so that we can live with more freedom, and make our living in constructive ways. We would like to express our intention for a more inspired life.

4) Have you visited a community or been part of one?

We have visited a few, Lama Foundation in New Mexico for example. Wendy has also done a work exchange, while living for a few months at a holistic health center on the East Coast.

5) What skills could you contribute?

Dan has long-term experience teaching elementary school. Wendy has worked with preschool children and done elder caregiving. We have had a successful vegetable garden. Both of us have some computer skills. Dan is a writer and Wendy has a lifelong interest in creative movement and folk dance.

6) Do you have a family coming with you?

We have only us (no children). It is possible, however, that some of our siblings might be interested.

7) What does your primary diet consist of?

Wendy and I are semi-vegetarian. Wendy includes seafood/fish,eggs, and dairy products with the rest of her diet. Dan does the same, but outside of the home he occasionally includes some poultry and beef.

8) Do you have any health concerns or issues?

....We both have some, and so would like to be within reasonable distance of a health care facility.

9) What kind of management system would you like?

At Lama Foundation (where we had a live work exchange for several weeks), everyone attended regular planning meetings. Decisions were made by consensus concerning care of the land, facilities, human needs, and other issues.

10) If we were to be located near enough to a community of 5 to 50 thousand, what kind of work would you want to be able to look for?

Between the two of us, we are interested in working with children, elders, and/or by using office skills. We would like to work with organizations that are socially responsible.

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Quest of Future

 


 


These people seem to be quite close to our thoughts on some things.

1) Describe your idea of a desirable community.

Our idea of a desirable community is one in which people can live in close proximity, sharing resources & responsibilities as well as laughter and ideas. However we are not interested in a "Chairman Mao" type of grey-clothed peasants, breaking rocks for the proletariat type of scene, nor one where everyone "Jumps for Jesus" or "Aims for Allah" A "back to the cave" or luddite mentality, forsaking all things modern is not something we are into (Except maybe a limit on those annoying cell phone ringers!) There is nothing wrong with "home grown" ideas to generate power, and independent self sufficiency should be encouraged.

We are looking for a place where differences are cherished and not merely tolerated, where you are encouraged to be yourself, instead of fitting into 'the mold.' It should be a place where everyone is willing to lend a helping hand or shoulder or recipe... Most of all, we value Trust and Honesty. Trust that what is declared private is private, what is said is accepted as fact, and what is implied is clarified so there is no misunderstandings, and Honesty, well that should be obvious.

2) What ideals do you feel are important for a community to hold?

Important ideals for this community would includes those that people everywhere (should) strive for...tolerance (we all have our weaknesses), compassion, trust, and willingness to let go of the need for control, while maintaining a value for the community and a responsible self esteem.

3) Why do you want to join a community?

Why do we want to join a community? We have both spent most of our lives feeling out of place - wherever that 'place' has been. We have tried, at times, to fit in, to be a part of the mighty cog, but it just isn't us. We aren't materialistic, yet we value and respect the value in things. We look and speak like everyone around us, but when we start to talk about what is important to us or give our opinions on various subjects, the world around us turns away. Our thoughts are not radical...they are just not politically correct! We would also like to be a part of a group of people who are tolerant, intelligent and fun! What makes this more apparent is that we find ourselves here, by choice, in a small rural community of conformists, some who border on hypocrisy. It's just not us; although we do like the small community as opposed to big city life.

4) Have you visited a community or been part of one?

We have never visited or been a part of such a community, but we have spent a lot of time researching them on the Internet as well as talking about them with each other.

5) What skills could you contribute?

What skills could we contribute? One of us is a seeker of knowledge and is well versed in a variety of electronic, manufacturing, drafting, design, maintenance, calibration and repair of personal computers,mechanical devices, and electric and electronic items. Also an automotive restorer, an avid photographer, model airplane enthusiast, an amateur musician, as well as a published author on automobile history and restoration.

One of us is currently the library director for a small college and is also a licensed elementary teacher and library media specialist, a storyteller, a gardener, a student of all things mystical, cooks and sews, and loves life.

6) Do you have a family coming with you?

The two of us would be our family we have a daughter in college, who lives on her own, and a young son who lives in back East. They do visit us on occasion, and are tolerant and well mannered.

7) What does your primary diet consist of?

Our primary diet is simple but varied: milk, cereal, pasta, breads, fruits and veggies, fish and chicken, the occasional dark beer and plenty of water. We do eat beef, but not on a regular basis. We are not into "junk food", aside from occasional pretzels, but we mainly try to keep simple and economical.

8) Do you have any health concerns or issues?

Medically we are healthy, take medications as needed, and have no serious or debilitating conditions or afflictions. We don't smoke, we respect the rights of those who do smoke, (but not where we eat or sleep!) We have no addictions yet are tolerant of those who may have, provided they observe sane moderation and personal responsibility. We would want to have access to a good medical facility for emergencies, and at minimum have access to a physician and a dentist.

9) What kind of management system would you like?

We would like a management system that is as fair and equitable as possible, not a hierarchical system. One where all voices are heard and considered. Any "council of elders" or "community leaders" need to have some realistic justification to hold that position and should not have absolute authority. The 'members' or established residents need to have a voice in the destiny of themselves and the community. Any Federal, State, and Local laws should be adhered to, yet we believe that responsible personal freedom and the sanctity of the home is important.

10) If we were to be located near enough to a community of 5 to 50 thousand, what kind of work would you want to be able to look for?

One of us would like to stay in the education field. A professional teaching or library position would be nice (elementary or college) and the other could do many things, but is currently self employed as a computer consultant, something that could be continued anywhere there are people and computers.

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DWFPaulus

dpaulus@twcny.rr.com

 


Hello, I am interested in finding out more about said community of light. I have a rich background in Shamanism, Grof Holotropic techniques, Monroe Out of Body Work plus Armstrong instruction in developing psychic abilities. Spirit relocation and healings (of all types) are my specialties. I am retired, financially secure, and looking for some open and spiritually minded people. Sincerely, Don (Dongi) Paulus.

 


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Bernadette

ElvinDell@yahoo.com

 


I'm a visionary artist and would like to live and work with other creative/artistic people: writers, musicians, actors, poets, etc.. My two children are now grown and I am single, so I have the freedom to try just about anything

I like the idea of consensus, but I've seen some horribly tedious efforts to reach it, so I'm thinking that a revolving leadership group would be ideal. Everyone would take turns being part of a core decision-making group. The group could be small enough to allow for consensus in making decisions without becoming overwhelming and it could take input from the rest of the community.

I want to live with people who consciously create their reality and believe that they are unlimited spirits here to enjoy a physical experience.

I like the idea of a village where people form natural friendships, rather than a close-knit group that must always participate in the same projects

I've lived in several group situations, but not in a formal intentional community. The reason I want to be part of a community is because I want to live more sustainably than I can while plugged into the mainstream culture.

Freedom is very important to me, so I am drawn to enlightened anarchy... but since we often forget that we are enlightened, I suppose it is necessary to have agreements about how things are going to operate

My diet is largely vegan, though I sometimes indulge in eggs, fish, or dairy. I don't like to be too fanatical about it. Totally vegan would be fine, too. I certainly would NOT want to live in a community where animals were raised to be slaughtered

My skills are varied... art/painting of course, organic gardening (though I can't spend much time out in the sun anymore), but I have a good bit of knowledge to share about it, animal husbandry... from pets to exotics, writing, cooking for large groups, child care/teaching, alternative healing...

It is very important to me that I live with people who strive for beauty in their surroundings. I've seen communes where the place was a mess and nobody seemed care. Not for me!

I also would like to live in a drug-free community, and without any religious dogma or practice. (If individual people want those things, that's their business, but I would not like to see them as part of the community values.

So far, I haven't found anywhere I like better than Northern California... but I'm open to other possibilities as long as I don't have to deal with snow.

I'm looking forward to finding out more about your plans. Namaste' Bernadette

 


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Nathan Craver

craver33414@yahoo.com

 


My name is Nathan Craver. I am not married and have no kids. I am 36 years old and currently live in South Florida and work as the Director of Exhibits at a small science museum. I have Bachelor's Degree in English Literature but my knowledge base is very wide. I am interested in mathematics, engineering, music, art, science, etc. and I am probably as well versed in many of those subjects as many that have gone to school to study them.

I have probably taken this job more seriously than any other so far in my life but it has made one thing very clear to me... I am not made for the corporate life or even the life of nine-to-five rat racing. I am a man of action and don't cater too well to the psychosis and fragile egos of today's work place. Hence, I'm looking for a new lifestyle to sink my teeth into.

A self-contained "homestead" of my own, complete with it's own power sources, water catchment/purification systems, food sources, composting facilities, as well as it's own sources for hobbies and entertainment is a life-long dream of mine...I've had this on my mind for as long as I can remember.

My vision of this "homestead" has, up to this point, always been one independent of all other people but I am more than willing to listen to others to see if the dream is the same and, if so, work as a group to accomplish something greater than all of us.

It is my hope to be a very rich man while making very little money. Nathan

1) Describe your idea of a desirable community.

One that respects the privacy of the individual within it, but is compassionate enough to care about the well-being and personal growth of those same individuals... one in which neighbors wave hello to neighbors

2) What ideals do you feel are important for a community to hold?

Partially answered in question 1 but... compassion, empathy, respect, and a desire to see advancement in whatever manner an individual chooses for him or herself.

3) Why do you want to join a community?

At this point, I'm not sure that I do but, it has always been my belief that we can achieve greater things by working together... a sense of belonging and a place to call home are not things to be taken lightly... this is what a community should be...

4) Have you visited a community or been part of one?

...no...

5) What skills could you contribute?

...there is no limit... I have building experience (construction and carpentry)) and the tools to go with it... I have problem solving skills above and beyond the average Joe... I have an ability in applied logistics that maximizes effect with the least amount of work (I know how to accomplish daunting tasks)... I can teach myself anything and I have the verbal and writing kills to help teach others... (I substitute taught for the better part of a year and come from a family of teachers)... I am mechanically inclined and can probably fix and get running many types of machinery (proper tools provided, of course)... I play music, write songs and there are a number of artistic endeavors I am aching to learn more about (for example... pottery, weaving, basket weaving, etc)... I am also planning on getting into some advanced first aid and wilderness first aid courses in the coming months.

6) Do you have a family coming with you?

...no...

7) What does your primary diet consist of?

...I actually eat very little... I'll eat anything but have no problem with a vegetarian based diet or a "vegan" diet. To be honest, eating is almost an after-thought for me.

8) Do you have any health concerns or issues?

...yes... I want to live to 135 years old...

9) What kind of management system would you like?

...open to suggestions... but one that allows "voices to be heard" would be best...

10) If we were to be located near enough to a community of 5 to 50 thousand, what kind of work would you want to be able to look for?

...ideally, what I would want to do on the "homestead" would be enough to create all the income I would need but if I were to go into town for work, I wouldn't want the work to become the focus... it would be merely diversionary for me... therefore, it wouldn't matter what kind of work was available... I'll change light bulbs, or bag groceries if it's something fun to do... however, having a school (college or community college) nearby might be a big plus!

I am currently using the yahoo instant messenger but I might be willing to switch in order to get in on a brain storming/intro chat session. Let me know...

 


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K Boyet

leslie511@yahoo.com

 


I would like to have more to show for my life than an office job and a cookie-cutter suburban house. I can't help but feel that a simpler life would be one in which I could be more fulfilled, instead of feeling like my life is slipping away with nothing to show for it.

I would love to find some place that I could be myself and not worry about appearance and what everyone thinks. Someplace I could voice my opinions and thoughts without worrying about being embarrassed.

I realize this is long and rambling, but I guess I had sort of an epiphany last night and realized how unhappy I was with how my life was going and that it had nothing to do with the checkbook balance or the size of the house or the age of the car but rather with the world I was trying to fit into.

Describe your idea of a desirable community.

Although unfortunately, I'm not sure exactly what it is that I am looking for; I am quite clear on what I'm not. I'm tired of spending so much time chasing the dollar that I have no time for myself, no patience for my husband, no real friends to speak of and no energy for my daughter.

I look around my garage/house/life and see so many accumulated things that I don't really need, but can't give up because that is what I am expected to have. I don't think I would miss cable tv and dvds and all the other little extras nearly as much if I had something more in my life.

What ideals do you feel are important for a community to hold?

I think the everyone needs to be both supportive of other's needs, desires and opinions, while at the same time being responsible for one's own life. There is definitely a nurturing that is possible in community situations, however, in my experience, the potential for abuse of the situation is very great.

Have you visited a community or been part of one?

I haven't yet but am very interested; we are planning on visiting friends in Baltimore, MD this fall and there is a well-establish community (Heathcote) there I would like to see.

What skills could you contribute?

I can machine and hand sew clothing, bedding, quilts, etc. I am excellent cook and have a very strong interest in gardening. I am also interested in spinning, but have yet to master the art. I have a Master's degree in Library Science, specializing in the restoration of rare books; I am also skilled at book binding and have an intellectual (if not practical) knowledge of paper making.

My husband has worked as a chef, restaurant manager, technical support, computer networking, hardware support, sales and as a teacher/trainer.

Do you have a family coming with you?

I am closing in on 32 years old, my husband is soon to be 30 and we have a bright and perceptive 3 1/2 year old daughter.

What does your primary diet consist of?

We are definitively omnivores (my husband insists on meat every evening); I am much more flexible. We both enjoy a wide variety of cuisines.

Do you have any health concerns or issues?

Outside of standard healthcare checkups, not particularly.

If we were to be located near enough to a community of 5 to 50 thousand, what kind of work would you want to be able to look for?

I would be very interested in returning to the library field, ideally in a university/archive setting, but any institution, public or private would be fine. My husband would need something in either computing/telecommunications or education.

Kristin, Michael & Tori Little Elm, TX

 


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E Green

bethg247@yahoo.com

 


1. I would like to live in a community as described at www.cloister.cc. In this community, the only leader is God, the creator of all. We are equals, treating each other with perfect respect. There is constant mutual healing between the ecosystem and the people. That includes a year-round garden, clean air and conservationists.

2. I have a solar power system, and have practiced conservation of natural resources since 1975. I have one year of experience organic gardening. I have been testing a natural, holistic healing program. Living about a half-mile away from others has been ideal for me. I have stayed that secluded for several weeks at a time. I appreciate the quiet, so I can study.

3. I would like a safe place to sleep with organic fertile soil, clean air and clean water. Instead of renting, moving and shopping, I can focus on the art and science projects I began in the 80's.

4. Although, I was raised Christian, I operated an ashram, where the instructors taught exercises for stress reduction. I also studied New Age philosophies and Zen Buddhism in college, to develop communication skills. I have visited several retreat centers and intentional communities to learn how they operate.

5. SERVICES AND CONSULTING:

Health Sciences Research; Biomedical Disease Prevention; Ergonomic Injury Prevention; Technical Writing and Editing; Spiritual Center Management; Certified Holistic Fitness Instruction; Therapeutic Massage; Organic Gardening.

6. A few women are interested in joining a retreat with me. Some are family farmers since 1725 and still using organic methods.

7. organic vegan

8. The property must be a private valley that is free of all distraction or disrespect for the healing process. It must be quiet when dark, except for birds. It must be safe from all human predators. I require a community of pacifist, chaste healers or spiritually mature people. Community members must be capable of unconditional love and virtue.

9. Even the most timid are encouraged to share needs and opinions. Any action requires 100% concurrence by all involved.

10. I would probably not look for work in a city. I would prefer publishing results of art and science projects, and receiving contributions by mail.

 


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CMarbutt

cjmarbutt@yahoo.com

 


Describe your idea of a desirable community.

I cannot say for certain. I generally think in terms of smaller groups, maybe twenty members tops but without practical experience, this may be off. I want a place that is secular, preferably with a various types of spirituality represented. Also a variety of age groups; I feel we cheat ourselves when we segregate ourselves into our own little age groups.

Decision making needs to be flexible but not so flexible nothing can be decided. I probably favor direct democracy over consensus though both have their problems. Partial or full income sharing depending on circumstance sounds like a good idea to me.

I can see strengths in both urban and rural communities and can see myself going in either direction on this one.

What ideals do you feel are important for a community to hold?

Hmmm Tolerance is a big one. Ive been working on being more tolerant of intolerant people for years. Voluntary simplicity, sane use of technology, a sense of experimentation because ultimately we don't always know what is going to work, sustainability.

Why do you want to join a community?

Because the above values are the ones I hold and our current society doesn't. Because I want to know someone has my back in exchange for me having theirs. Because we are by nature social creatures who can only take greater control of their own life in conjunction with others. Because I want the sense of neighborhood and fellowship that the small towns lost here in the Deep South sometime in the early 80s.

Have you visited a community or been part of one?

No. I live in Alabama and everything that truly interests me is generally 500 miles or more away.

5) What skills could you contribute?

Pardon me if it sounds flip, but whatever the community needed. I worked my way through nursing school back in 96 and while I am not currently licensed, I remain convinced that people can learn anything if they are determined enough. I currently work at a TV station doing data entry. I am academically oriented, decent in the garden and love herbs.

6) Do you have a family coming with you?

My partner of the twelve years, William Edwards.

7) What does your primary diet consist of?

Octo Lacto Vegetarian. I love chickens. They are like little two legged composters, eating table scraps and laying eggs. Ours were unfortunately killed in a recent flood.

8) Do you have any health concerns or issues?

None. Im 32 and still get carded for alcohol and tobacco products.

9) What kind of management system would you like?

Something that can take into account the needs of the members and respond accordingly.

10) If we were to be located near enough to a community of 5 to 50 thousand, what kind of work would you want to be able to look for?

Open. I live there now and do the TV station gig. My partner is a potter.

 


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Paula Hamilton

naturesapothecary4u@yahoo.com

 


Paula Hamilton

My name is Paula. I would like to move to a community where the residents are interested in protecting the environment and living a lifestyle closer to the earth.

I have been a metaphysician for thirty-five years. Currently I support my family selling my own line of natural living products, which I handcraft and sell at farmer's markets throughout the southland. I teach an eight week course on the everyday use of essential oils for health, beauty, home and garden, at adult schools in the San Bernadino area. And I teach herbal soap and lotion crafting at the local park and recreation center.

I am a certified life skills coach and hypnotherapist. I had a practice in Tarzana, Ca. until two years ago, when I relocated to the mountains seeking a simpler way of life. In my practice I specialized in helping children and adults with ADD and ADHD learn coping skills such as organization, purpose and priorities, communication, and relaxation techniques.

I look forward to communicating with the group in the future. Presently I have no suggestions on how to proceed. This is all very new to me. At this point I'm not even sure what my expectations are. I expect I'll learn a lot from all of you, and gradually form a clear picture all the possibilities. I hope that my talents and skills will serve as a useful addition to what you plan to create in your community.

 


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Susan

WorkingWonders@aol.com

 


1) Describe your idea of a desirable community

One where all types of religions and beliefs can be honored and respected they all root to the Tao i celebrate all culture; and all types of beliefs; except those who worship the devil

2) What ideals do you feel are important for a community to hold?

love, respect, room for people to grow, spiritual beliefs, truth, trust & honor

3) Why do you want to join a community?

i am thinking more in terms of starting my own in either Canada ; or Arizona

4) Have you visited a community or been part of one?

no, but, i am familiar with a few people who live in some that have run for a considerable length of time, and, it seems like a viable way for me to run current business, while rewarding others for their efforts; and; the spiritual aspect of what this center will do; could have huge benefits for the individuals involved

5) What skills could you contribute?

i was assistant vp of a major fortune 500 co; semiretired at 29, and; have run my own home based business; (at the same time) for over 25 years i am good at everything from sales/accounting/production/inventory control/ purchasing/sourcing & being innovative

I know how to run a business in the "black ink" & i am easy to work for, and/or work with i am a teacher of akashic records, and, i run spiritual adventures on a global basis part-time; if i was to create a center; there would be work for all kinds of different people; from cooks to maintenance personal

6) Do you have a family coming with you?

there are currently one/or two of us; who are considering this along with several other teachers; who have spiritual skills that are complimentary that hope to join us

7) What does your primary diet consist of?

vegetarian ; but i have been known to still eat lobster/shrimp on occasion <chuckle>

8) Do you have any health concerns or issues?

excellent health , no issues

9) What kind of management system would you like?

i guess; that depends upon whether or not i finance it 100%; or; i look to joining an already existing community; i do have some ideas of how people could earn they portion; and; i also have some ideas about the creation of an old age home (for old souls) which could foster a program of teaching care for aging people -- but ; that would not be in the first 5 years of operation

10) If we were to be located near enough to a community of 5 to 50 thousand, what kind of work would you want to be able to look for?

i am able to create my own work by running highly lucrative spiritual retreats; along with moving my own business; to this location; which i require only a local post office / or ups for pickups or delivery

i am also considering making space for artists ; etc; so, they might run 1 week retreats; which might incorporate spiritual development / with art run by qualified art teachers

i am also considering making space for people who never got an opportunity to learn music/dance; etc., & have them running a half day program music/other half of the day spiritual development i have some pretty interesting ideas

 


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Jamie Page

jrpage2005@yahoo.com

 


I am 18 and have lived over half my life in community, in New York, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, and England. They're all part of one movement in which people share things in common. They live very close to the land and have joy with each other whatever their doing. They have their own business of making handicap equipment. Now I'm living on my own with my two brothers and am looking a lot into meditating and thinking about what a community should be like and what it should be based off of. This is just a little taste of my history but I am now looking to see how other communities do things and learn/network with like-minded people. Have you started the Community of light or is it still in the preparation state. I would love to here from you.

 


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C.K. Hurd

hurdcat@adelphia.net

 


Hi Dan,

I answered the questions you sent in your first email below. As far as dryer areas of Oregon... I think it is essential to have good access to clean water. But I would like to investigate all of Oregon, although we like the idea of being closer to the coast. This trip we only have enough time to see Eugene and Klamath Falls. Catherine

1) Describe your idea of a desirable community.

My idea of a desirable community - Several families clustered around a community area in the center which consists of garden plots, fruit trees, maybe a large well, and in the best of worlds, a clean creek. If feasible, a windmill or two would be somewhere on the property. The community would be self sustaining if need be. In other words, off the grid. The homes would be built in a way that is harmonious with the surroundings.

2) What ideals do you feel are important for a community to hold?

I think they should agree to leave a small footprint on the Earth. In other words, people with large Hummers might not be the best neighbors. While I say this, I also hate being restrictive, as I do believe in leaving people alone. Like, if I want to have chickens, I could have them. Sometimes when people get together they start making rules, and soon the community is so anal that the original reason I went to live there is gone. A community like this requires common sense, and two basic rules: " Do all that you have agreed to do," and "Do not encroach on others or their property."

3) Why do you want to join a community?

I feel that the Earth, and in particular this country is headed towards disaster. We use up many more natural resources than nature can replenish. Energy and food is shipped many miles because of cheap oil. We drive long distances to and from work because of cheap oil. Everything, suburbs, energy distribution, modern buildings, food distribution, mass transportation, all of it has developed the way it has because of cheap and abundant oil. I believe that era is very close to being over, and the only way to survive is to live in a community of like minded, ecologically involved human beings.

4) Have you visited a community or been part of one?

My husband lived in the Miccosukki land coop in Tallahassee, Florida. I tried getting involved in another before I met him, which was attempting to buy several acres on the Wakulla river. But the coop fell apart. The reason it fell apart was because of disagreements on petty issues, such as could this person's cat run free if this person likes birds in her yard. That's what I was talking about earlier.

5) What skills could you contribute?

My husband is a builder, and a contractor, is especially interested in straw bale and alternative housing. We have both attended straw bale workshops in Arizona. My husband teaches building in the LA school system, and is even now experimenting on alternative energy sources, such as wind, solar and alternative fuels with his class. I am a writer, and have a masters degree in film production, and another one in screenwriting. I taught screenwriting and film production. I've also worked as an artist. My husband has taught me a lot about building. I roofed our house in the mountains, and did some of the electrical.

6) Do you have a family coming with you?

I have a husband and one 14 year old boy. Another son is attending college in Stockton, CA.

7) What does your primary diet consist of?

We eat mostly vegetables, which I buy from the local farmers market every week. In addition, we eat poultry and fish. We try to eat whole grain foods as much as possible.

8) Do you have any health concerns or issues?

No. We are all very healthy.

9) What kind of management system would you like?

I kind of went into that. Two basic rules should guide us. "Do all that you have agreed to do," and "Do not encroach on others and their property." In setting up the coop, we should make clear that we intend to respect the land. Every rule should be stated before we start, things that apply to cutting down trees, fouling water, the types of houses that are built. People's taste is their own, but this is an environmentally friendly place, and no McMansions. All homes should be built to conserve, and not waste energy. If we state these things to begin with, then people who don't like the rules, need not apply. Other than that, democratic rule seems the best in a small community.

10) If we were to be located near enough to a community of 5 to 50 thousand, what kind of work would you want to be able to look for?

I think my husband and I would try and start our own business. He could teach others how to build, or help build their homes. I could do any number of things, teach writing, practice my artwork, make films of the community, write books, and continue to write spec screenplays.

 


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Wendy

eddyricka@hotmail.com

 


1) Describe your idea of a desirable community.

A desirable community to me is what I will be trying to achieve and will require a lot of screening. The community would live co-operativly but not dependent of each other. There would be no 'communal pot' of finances. living would be very reasonable in little cabins with studios for painters, writers, composers, musicians, philosophers, scientists etc. There would be communal gardens, building bees, events etc but each couple, single or family would be living separately as in a community, not commune hippie style.

There would be common buildings such as library, shops, cafe etc to provide independent earnings. 20% profit to the community for development then the rest goes to the individual be they a painter, hairstylist, mechanic whatever. Quaint old fashioned shops for the general public would provide a free venue for entrepreneurs. A special venue would provide residents with a space to teach classes, and charge the public. of course an art gallery etc. the group would be a think tank for science, arts, economy, special projects, performances etc.

There would no physco babble stuff, no weirdo stuff, no smoking, no drunkenness, no drugs, no swinging, just normal back to earthers who want to live in a setting that is healthy for the body, spirit and mind. Tolerance for different cultures, races would be the standard.

The 'center' would be a place open to the public to visit. No secrets. and commerce would be welcome as we all need to survive financially and we cannot be unrealistic to think that a bunch of people can run out to the bush, hug a tree and live together....

2) What ideals do you feel are important for a community to hold?

The community would be of talented, conscientious, capable, independent, spiritual but not fanatic, culturally aware, generally healthy, emotionally stable, intelligent, back to earth but not earth zealot, financially stable meaning no one is chasing you and you are not hiding from creditors, no gun happy zealots, no negative feeders, people that appreciate the woods, ambitious but not willing to climb on others, and no depressive, anger management dependent people. People need to want the life style and have something to offer in themselves. The center would not be a place for those looking for a free place to live or place to hide from something. picky...yes....always be protective of your environment...you choose to be careful what you eat, be also careful what you put in your mind and heart.

3) Why do you want to join a community?

I want to build the community. I already have the land, in northern Alberta. 240 acres of bush connected to miles of crown land...I have dreamt of this center since I was 19..I am almost 52...now I will begin.

4) Have you visited a community or been part of one?

No

5) What skills could you contribute?

I can build, do computers, organize, design, garden, good in group, ideas and problem solver. i would market and promote resident businesses as a center so the community can survive.

6) Do you have a family coming with you?

perhaps

7) What does your primary diet consist of?

I do not have do and don't rules. I do not generally drink milk but love cheese.? lots of veggies, do not eat out much. Have a great garden. Not fond of hamburgers...No alcohol, no drugs, no cigarettes, no coffee...I do not begrudge others anything but for the center...NO SMOKERS

8) Do you have any health concerns or issues?

not generally

9) What kind of management system would you like?

A non profit society. No grande Poohba, no communal pot. People need to be able to be independant and still live in a community...not commune...independant thought and a cottage business for individuals in their own little shop..People still need their own cash to buy meds, gifts,computers perusal things, student loans,parents,clothes etc...today you cannot live without some personal money...Individuals, couples or family pay a small amount for accommodations, a percent of their income and free venue for their business. That way people do not have to be tied to the place in case of family emergencies etc. They can have their own biz, earn and save their own money, pay 20% OF PROFIT so if they do not make a profit they do not end up drowning in stupid rent etc. but a quaint little 'village' will emerge of artisans. Scientists, philosophers that do have a 'product' can give local people classes and charge for them.

10) If we were to be located near enough to a community of 5 to 50 thousand, what kind of work would you seek?

My land is half hour from a town of 12 thousand that has a great college , box stores, tons of tourists in summer etc. I stay in my woods now and work on computers. I live in a shack, build trails, clear some land etc. and work toward finding people for a community. I will build cabins that are quaint, stylish, and most likely log or earthen. I live alone with my dogs and hope in the next year to have some facilities built.

 


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Mihail Vasilev

fly2freedom@abv.bg

 


Hi Dan! Hi Friends ! My Mind is my God! How I think ? And why?

It's all a matter of criteria! If we choose to enjoy Life, first we choose our criteria for joy. I "realize" ! The Death make all without meaning! But, when the Man search the Joy in the simple things. In Knowledge. Then, all become new beauty! New goodness!

I search my "Way with Heart",and my true Friend for this Way ! With "unbending Intent" for goodness, joy and love! (or Peace, Love and Freedom) You can see my profile in http://milushlovejoy.zaazd.com

1) Describe your idea of a desirable community.

It's nice to know that you can find all your friends at "home". Community of Light -"Houm" for me and my Friends! Great Internet Community. A Criteria: Peace, Love and Freedom) Community of Light Community of Love Community of New Age

2) What ideals do you feel are important for a community to hold?

For great Community three criteria: Peace Love and Freedom! For Community of Light : Peace Love and Freedom! + independant, overcoming the "EGO",respect for the web of life and the earth,and "Knowledge","Knowledge" which gives the Power to be wise,capable and loving!and.................... For(my) small "Houm" Joy,"Abstract Love" and "Knowledge"

3) Why do you want to join a community?

My Life is only one! I wish to live in Joy with like-minded Friends at" Home"!

4) Have you visited a community or been part of one?

Only in Internet.

5) What skills could you contribute?

I have more skills! Building, gardening,farming and more, but, I wish working with joy for our goals!With smile friends!

6) Do you have a family coming with you?

No.

7) What does your primary diet consist of?

I wish to give all necessary for my Brain and my body!

8) Do you have any health concerns or issues?

I am very sensitive for (E121,123,....)

9) What kind of management system would you like?

Discussion.(Socrates) Give joy others! Consensus agreement on major issues. Perhaps an elected committee to take care of every day details so there doesn't need to be endless debate over trivial items.

10) If we were to be located near enough to a community of 5 to 50 thousand, what kind of work would you want to be able to look for?

To began, I would be create a small basis for sleep and food. If, near by all good Heart, stand another good Heart P.S. I have one idea!

In other community, with WWOOF principles (ensure bed and food for 4h work) , we can become they experience. Clear ours criteria. Founded small group for began. TheTrue friendship build self in work together!

 


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Anne Clark

annie_c25@hotmail.com

 


1) Describe your idea of a desirable community.

I would like to live in a community based on love, friendship, team work, spiritual growth, creativity, open-mindedness, freedom, natural ways of living (e.i. solar power, wind power, water power, growing organic food, etc.), just to name a few.

My thoughts have been on an area just southwest of Calgary, Alberta, Canada. The reasons for this are: that the area is around 5,000 feet above sea level, which is paramount considering the flooding that has begun to envelop this part of the world. it has a good growing season.

it is close to a number of communities, yet it can be and feel secluded. The scenery is awe inspiring. It is full of wildlife and many beautiful and useful indigenous plants and flowers. The people around that area are very friendly and welcoming. The weather is not too hot or cold, with warm Chinook winds gracing the winter months periodically.

2) What ideals do you feel are important for a community to hold?

Integrity, love, supporting and celebration of differences, embracing all with compassion and understanding, fairness.

3) Why do you want to join a community?

I believe that a community would be a welcomed change in this world. Violence and unjust treatment of Gaia, animals, and human beings must stop, and only community living can stop these atrocities. A community based on love and mutual interests, song and dance, fun, healing, and the ability to help ourselves and others means a lot to me.

4) Have you visited a community or been part of one?

No. My cousin belonged to one years ago, though, and I believe that she turned out to be a much better person in many aspects because of it.

5) What skills could you contribute?

I have landscaped for over 18 years, have driven truck, and still have a license to drive a 5 ton truck. I worked in greenhouses for 4 years. I have worked with computers for decades, and have managed businesses before, including an aggregate business for 2 years, a restaurant type of business for 6 months, and a landscaping store for a year.

I have run Bobcats (skid steer)s, front end loaders, tractors, packers, and even 35 ton rock trucks. I have worked with hand tools, power tools, air tools, woodworking tools, welders, etc. I have helped to build structures, and done some wiring, painting,and plumbing.

I have gardened, and I love growing my own vegetables and herbs! They taste so much better when they are home grown! I love making walking sticks and canes, whittling, and doing other creative things with my hands.

I have a horse, and he loves to be ridden! I attended an Equestrian riding school as a child (hunter/jumper), and worked on a horse breeding farm a few years back as well.

I am a Reiki Master/Teacher/Practitioner in many different forms of Reiki. I became a Minister of the Universal Life Church a while back, but have been continuing my education before pursuing any type of Ministry.

The list goes on...but I won't bore you...

6) Do you have a family coming with you?

No. My son is grown up and owns his own house.

7 What does your primary diet consist of?

I eat a high protein, low fat diet, with lots of green leafy vegetables. I prefer organic food to ones with any sort of preservatives, hard to find nowadays .

8) Do you have any health concerns or issues?

The doctor says I have a few concerns, but I have managed to minimize the effects with diet and self-Reiki treatments.

9) What kind of management system would you like?

I prefer consensus by the group. After all, don't we all have to live with the results of each decision? Should it not make sense, then, to all have a say as to what that decision might be?

10) If we were to be located near enough to a community of 5 to 50 thousand, what kind of work would you want to be able to look for?

As I have stated above, I have experience in many fields, so finding work has never been a problem for me. Presently, and for about the past 6 months, I work as a calltaker doing data entry into computers for a taxi company in Calgary, Alberta. I was landscaping before winter hit.

Pretty much every second business in this province has a help wanted sign on the door, and has for a while. Minimum wage has gone up recently, and there are many places competing for workers. Some of the warehouses in Calgary, which, incidentally, is not too far from the area I was thinking for that would be a great place for a commune, have had to travel all the way to Mexico to get workers because they are having a hard time keeping Canadian workers even when the starting wage there is I believe $16 an hour plus benefits!

As far as small towns in the area, Turner Valley, Okotoks, and Black Diamond, are all about 15 miles away,and High River about 25. Calgary is about 20 miles away in the other direction, but you can't see it because of the hills. The area I was thinking of is called Millarville. The only businesses there are just a general store, a gas station, a small engine repair shop, and, believe it or not, a travel agency! Outside of town is a race track that doubles as a farmer's market every Saturday during the summer months.

I believe that this world is changing big time, and we need to learn to change with it. This can only be done with love, understanding, camaraderie, community, peace, unity, and again I say love.

 


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Micvhelle + Robert

michelle.brugiere@yahoo.com

 


Our names are Michelle and Robert. We are pleased to be part of The Community of Light. This on line experience will be a bit erratic for us because we are on the road for the next 6 months and will only be visiting internet cafes a couple of times a week. We hope to visit and volunteer in some communities next spring (written as of 12/07)

1. Describe your idea of a desirable community.?

Provide for the well being of the community, live in balance with the earth, and preserve her biodiversity. Provide infrastructure and organizational education and support to other communities.

A community has many dimensions: location, geography, spirit, size, goals, financial basis, etc. Our ideal community would be located near or adjoining large areas of public land which supports abundant wildlife. The community land would be in an agricultural area where we could trade food with our neighbors. Community land would need to have water rights for irrigation and natural water features: spring, stream, or lake. We are partial to ecological and geological transition zones like you would find at the base of a mountain.

We would like a community that strives for sustainability and give back to the area by including an animal sanctuary. The social agreement should include mutual service and support system that would enable work sharing. Income for the community members could include educational and contracting outreach to others interested in sustainable practices. In the beginning we hope to build a community of 10 to 20 "families."

2. What ideals do you feel are important for a community to hold?

Integrity, responsibility, and commitment to the common purpose are important and respect for the individual's rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Permaculture could form the organizing principles sustainable living with the land while natural capitalism could form the organizing principles for the business part of the community.

3. Why do you want to join a community?

We believe that the planet and humanity are starting to experience major changes and it is important to band together as a community to face these challenges

4. Have you visited or been part of a community?

Michelle has lived and studied at Heartwood Institute for six months. Heartwood is a massage school in northern California. She also visited two other communities in northern California about 15 years ago. Robert has not lived in or visited any communities.

5. What skills can you contribute?

Michelle grew up on a farm in France. She has been a massage therapist for 17 years and she owns her own business.

Robert has many hard skills in science and technology. He worked as an Outward Bound instructor and can organize groups and is handy in emergency first aid situations. He is skilled in construction and maintenance of buildings, water systems, electrical systems, and mechanical systems. He has owned his own business and most recently ran a solar contracting business.

6. Do you have other family members?

Robert has a daughter that is 16. She isn't presently interested but things might change.

7. Primary diet?

We eat a semi-vegetarian diet. Occasionally we eat fish.

8. Health concerns or issues?

None

9. What kind of management system?

We believe that the community should be ruled by the principles that it agrees to through consensus. These principles can be amended over time again by consensus. There should be management individuals or groups for specialized tasks chosen by consensus. Once the guiding principles and management is in place then a simple democracy should be sufficient. There needs to be a method decided on ahead of time through consensus to manage conflict, bring in new individuals, and let individuals leave.

10. What kind of work would you be able to do outside of the community?

Michelle is a massage therapist. Robert can do a variety of jobs: plumbing, water well installation and service, electrician, computer work, solar installation and service.

 


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Eva Penny

eva.penny@yahoo.com

 


1) Describe your idea of a desirable community:

Like to find a community that respects people's different views on life,religion..Family oriented..helps with needs of others..Possible to have schooling,home schooling program for all the children to attend..Daycare for those that just need to have a break..I feel that everyone needs a certain amount of privacy,maybe cabins to each person but a center where we all can meet for entertaining,cooking..gathering..

2) What ideals do you feel are important for a community to hold?

Respect for others and there views,ideas,opinions,religions....

3) Why do you want to join a community?

I feel the way the economy is going,that it may be in many people's best interest to join and come together to help one another..

4) Have you visited a community or been part of one?

I have visited and stayed for an entire summer.

5) What skills could you contribute?

I enjoy gardening,Organic foods. I deal with alot of herbs,herbal medicines,holistic care. .Currently Real Estate Investor/Associate Broker in a economy not doing so well in the market.

6) Do you have a family coming with you?

It would be my son and I. I do have 2 dogs?? I am 38 and my son is 12.

7) What does your primary diet consist of?

I eat alot of fruit and veggies/salads. Fish and Chicken -mostly Organic and free range

8) Do you have any health concerns or issues?

I have no health concerns treat myself and son with natural medicines and we are rarely ever sick.

9) What kind of management system would you like?

not really sure??

10) If we were to be located near enough to a community of 5 to 50 thousand, what kind of work could you want you consider besides what you'd do in the community?..

I'm a Real Estate Investor/Associate Broker. Airline Attendant,other jobs I have done: waitress, cleaning business,secretary,kitchen,factory,carpentry,painter.

 


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