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I want to thank everyone for being so patient. It has taken some time to put this issue together. I am pleased to state that we've been having an increase in dialogue through our Yahoo Group. Please consider setting your preferences so that you receive the digests of the letters that we exchange there, it will help us all get to know each other better. Dan.
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We hear this: "Those who expect 'instant gratification' and/or instant action reveal a lack of knowledge about how some IC's develop. They begin with ideas, exchange of information, a group of people getting to know one another. To jump into a task as intense and important as creating a community requires planning, forethought and preparations. Not all who are interested are immanently ready. There are many issues to be considered.
We want to co-create with others a community in a rural area, grow a portion of our own food, create a profitable cottage industry, and so be self employed. We want keep well the land that we live on and engage in right livelihood. We also want to contribute to the community around us and so benefit our society. Ideally, we would want to be near enough to a town of no more than approximately 50,000 or so, a college community. We could each use our talents, abilities, or professions to provide for ourselves as well as whatever "cottage industry" would be
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Co-operative CROSS-POLLINATION is a good thing. Alternative individuals and groups are strongly urged to reach out and learn from each other. In our isolation and clannishness we might waste our precious time reinventing the wheel. The questions we ponder may already be answered by someone in another circle. Let us pull our heads out of the proverbial turtle shell, make new connections, find our strength in diversity, define ourselves as belonging to a living movement which transcends the ordinary ... Let us network for mutual aid and support. Together, based in the working knowledge of nature, we may co-create a new age of healing, taking our place in the whole, becoming ... successful stewards of the planet upon which we live.
Cross Pollination, ie, inter group sharing is a good idea, for the reasons you stated, not reinventing the wheel, and to speed up the process of learning, and coping with common problems or concerns.
I believe that we, as a group, could/should talk to, write, visit, or otherwise communicate with other communities, both forming and formed.
Indeed the world we live in seems to present us with a reality that is at once pressing, and uncomfortable, to say the least. Our choice, to form an intentional community is one way to manage our personal lives in such a way as to make a difference, not only for ourselves but for those we choose to live near and work with.
And another thought:
I had an idea, something we have not considered, I believe for some time or ever.
I thought of the possibility of choosing and using a city to start our co-operative venture. The idea being moving to a city and then sharing a particular piece of property together. The thoughts behind this are that we are urban people, we might be able to adjust to a move to another city, more easily than to a change of location and life style. I am considering this, that we consider a two stage approach. During the urban phase we organize, come together, learn to work in concert, refine who we are and begin to actively solve the problems we'll certainly face when we found our community.
I am not suggesting this overall, but offering it as another route to what we want.
In one sense, ageing is our ally, we may have some who are retired, or who are for other reasons very mobile. We may be able to build something up before we move to our "place in the sun"
A last few things:
I imagine there are a lot of ideas out there and I know that what has been written in this or prior issues are meant as to be a working concept, one that is in progress, and meant to be discussed, even debated.
If you have not been to the Community of Lights web page we now have a listing of communities that are forming. It may be educational to visit some of those sites to see what's new in the community universe See the links at: Commnity of Light
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Thanks, Dan and Wendy
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Real food for thought: From an anonymous contributor:
After much reflection I'm losing interest in reinventing the wheel, there are numerous small towns [say 50 to 500 people] that have lost businesses and their youth in droves, why not choose one that is out of harms way and become a contributing force within that community. Tallying up the towns imports and developing local supplies alternatives [while no small task] has the advantage of existing infrastructure in roads, power supply and buildings while reinvigorating the local economy.
Basically I see dying towns as half built lifeboats, with an eye to the areas carrying capacity we can incorporate food coops, local trading schemes, lease land for a community supported agriculture / firewood coop and buy land within walking distance for a variety of housing types [traditional, co-housing, camping etc. Offering courses in various aspects of sustainability would be integral, as would be local schooling and small/home based business. In short; a learning community.
WHAT IS LOVE?
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What does love mean? A group of professional people posed this question to a group of 4 to 8 year-olds, "What does love mean?" The answers they got were broader and deeper than anyone could have imagined.
When my grandmother got arthritis, she couldn't bend over and paint her toenails anymore. So my grandfather does it for her all the time, even when his hands got arthritis too. That's love. Rebecca - age 8
When someone loves you, the way they say your name is different. You know that your name is safe in their mouth. Billy - age 4
Love is what's in the room with you at Christmas if you stop opening presents and listen. Bobby - age 7
If you want to learn to love better, you should start with a friend who you hate. Nikka - age 6
Love is like a little old woman and a little old man who are still friends even after they know each other so well. Tommy - age 6
You really shouldn't say 'I love you' unless you mean it. But if you mean it, you should say it a lot. People forget. Jessica - age 8
A four year old child whose next door neighbor was an elderly gentleman who had recently lost his wife. Upon seeing the man cry, the little boy went into the old gentleman's yard, climbed onto his lap, and just sat there. When his mother asked him what he had said to the neighbor, the little boy said, "Nothing, I just helped him cry." Hope this will make your day just a little bit better and make it easier for you to spread your love around, too.
A plea for using trees as a food source .......... anonymous
It helps to think outside the box and look for new paradigms. What is fundamentally off-course? My solution: eat primarily what comes from trees (and what our bodies are designed for) -- fruit (and nuts). By making fruit the foundation of our diet and trees the foundation of agriculture, the need for compost and fertilizer is greatly reduced. In fact, trees provide their own compost mostly in the form of deciduous leaves. It is the most natural and healthy course for the environment and for human physiology. Using permaculture techniques rather than monoculture orchards can boost total productivity of the land.
A very easy way to give food to the hungry is to set the Hunger Site as your browser's home page. Check out the Hunger Site to see what it is about and how it works.
Discussion and Debates:
Some talk about diet, mainly vegetarianism and or vegan being compared with "regular" diet has come my way. I don't want to sow dissent but I believe that issues which might do just that should be talked about, thought about and considered. I know that we have both vegans and non-vegans participating and so I hope to spark discussions that bring us together, rather than pull us apart.
These are some quotes that have come my way:
#1) "Vegetarians choose their lifestyle, it is not naturally occurring, if they select not to do the natural thing, it must be for ideological reasons. Ideology, not nutrition basics is what sets us apart; the meat eaters, the omnivores and the vegans."
#2) I think that people with different perspectives should be able to live together in the same community but vegans do deserve their own space within the larger community and that's why I have suggested we create a Vegan Village within the larger Eco-Village models that we are creating together during this significantly unique time of New Creation"
#3) Me: Personally, I would think that we'd be able to have persons with either kind of diet present, after all, we have not stated any prerequisite concerning religion, gender, parenthood, wealth that I know of.
If you want to research intentional communities this is a good place to start.
Communities Magazine, 138 Twin Oaks Road, Louisa VA 23093 USA or call them at: Tel/Fax: 540-894-5126. Their website is at Intentional Communities
You might also find the resources on the Northwest Intentional Communities site to be valuable. There are lists of legal documents, process advice, how to find people, etc. They can be found at: http://www.ic.org/nica/resource.htm
This is a list of places seeking members, communities forming and the like. I have come across it at the F.I.C.'s website: http://elph.anu.net/reach/reachbook-all.html
It might be a place to do research, who knows there may be a place within a relatively short drive.
From one of our friends: Our Own Chat Room?
Maybe we could meet in a chat room at some designated time, once a week, once a month? Perhaps on a Sunday evening at 6:00? I think a running dialogue might give us all a better feeling as to the natures of our prospective neighbors, and instant response on topics might move things more fluidly
So I wrote back:
I like this idea. We'd have to "run it up the flag pole and see if anyone salutes it" But yes. I will put it in the next newsletter, which will be up tomorrow, and post this with the group as well:
Hear ye, hear ye, we are thinking of scheduling a chat time either on a weekly, bi-monthly, or monthly basis. The purpose would be to get to know each other, process ideas and information more efficiently and take some time for "our idea" to nurture it. Please write me or write into the Yahoo Group and let us begin discussing ideas for this.
If you are a member of our Yahoo group you can access the current polling data, or vote: this is the link to our group This is what we have at "press time" this time around. We have made some changes.
We are against a membership fee, yet we feel, from poll number two, that we will have to contribute in some way. We like woods, coastal areas, and would want to farm, have fruit trees, solar power and have economic relationships with neighbors or the nearby community.
Our Polls: Totals as of 1/11/04
1) Would you consider having the community based outside of the United States?
the U.S. preferred depending
on country chosen 3 43 neutral
- no preference would
but not first choice 4 57 NOT
consider outside U.S.
outside the U.S. preferred
depending on country chosen
neutral - no preference
would but not first choice
NOT consider outside U.S.
2) Should there be a membership fee of some kind?
% Yes 1 20.0 No 4 80.0
3) What should fees be based on?
% number of incoming
members income of entering
members potential income of
group 1 33 other 1 33 a share buying/buy
in system 1 33
number of incoming members
income of entering members
potential income of group
a share buying/buy in system
4) What kind of climate would you want to live in?
% tropical 1 10 subtropical
1 10 forest
2 20 woodland/meadow
6 60 tundra
5) What land locations would you like?
% Island 7 19
Peninsula 7 19 Land
bound w/coast 7 19 land
bound no coast 5 14 High
altitude 4 11 Low
altitude 6 17
Land bound w/coast
land bound no coast
6) What sorts of things would you want to use the land for?
8 14 Raising
livestock 5 9 Raising
feed crops 4 7 Hunting
3 5 Gathering
7 13 Fishing 6 11 Utilitarian
crops 4 7 Fruit
bearing trees 9 16 Lumber/milling
1 2 Water/solar
for alt. power 9 16
Raising feed crops
Fruit bearing trees
Water/solar for alt. power
7) Would you consider a buy/sell/relationship with the outside world?
% Yes 8 100.0 No